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Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.06.27 16:28:00 - [1] Originally by: voogru Edited by: voogru on 27/06/2007 16:22:11 I think a wiser solution to step one would be to prevent Chinese players from running _NEW_ accounts on TQ, since they are intended to play on the Chinese server, not TQ. This would also help the Chinese server numbers. TQ races have democracy, human rights, free speech. Can't have that in China now can we? And here comes voogru again with his racism. "...prevent Chinese players from...". Dude, what's your race anyway?
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.06.27 16:31:00 - [2] Originally by: Bklyn 1 ... I really think CCP should have much more liberal use of the ban stick, particularly with the isk buyers. I totally agree on that one. Every self proclamed "farmer-killer" admits knowing players that have bought ISK. Petition them! Oh but, wait a second... those friends are not chinese right? So if you are not chinese it is ok for you to buy isk/cheat and stuff right?
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.06.27 16:37:00 - [3] Originally by: voogru The purpose of the Chinese server is so Chinese players have a place to play with people that speak their own language. If your a new player to EVE why would they want to play the game in a foreign language when they can play it in their own language. #1, The creation of the Chinese server was not because of a language issue. It was more of a local goverment issue. #2, A very big number of EvE's playerbase doesn't have English as their primary language. English is not my primary language, nor CCP primary language for that matter.
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.06.27 16:38:00 - [4] Originally by: voogru I petition anybody I see doing something naughty regardless of race. If you want proof of this, hit me up ingame. Cool, keep doing that. Just stop saying that chinese people should be baned, or treated differently in any way.
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.06.27 16:47:00 - [5] Originally by: voogru Originally by: Shameless Avenger #1, The creation of the Chinese server was not because of a language issue. It was more of a local goverment issue. So you agree that the Chinese server is for Chinese players? Don't try to twist things to support your own ideals. Things are what they are and nothing more. If you want to know the whole history of the creation of the chinese server, go and google it up. I'm telling you that "language" was not the reason. If CCP could have entered the chinese market with TQ, they would have done that. But because of local laws of the china goverment, they could not. The decision had nothing to do with language, race, nationality or whatever.
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.06.27 16:57:00 - [6] Originally by: voogru So whats the point of the Chinese server if a majority of Chinese players just play on TQ anyway? To be a decoration? Like I told you, google it up. I'm not doing your work for you. Originally by: voogru Originally by: Cheunger Yeah, so when I move to Hong Kong from Canada I won't be able to play EVE anymore right? Keyword: New accounts. Existing accounts would be allowed to connect from anywhere. So just because he is chinese, when his character reaches capital abilities, he can't create a cyno alt?
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.06.27 17:06:00 - [7] Originally by: voogru Originally by: Cheunger And if I want to have another account after I move? Am I to be denied the opportunity? I think you bring up the most legitimate point against limited new Chinese accounts on the TQ server, and probably why it's not the BEST idea. It's an idea and nothing more. I think theres several more fronts that can be used to attack the farmers rather than this. But I can imagine such a restriction being forced on CCP if the Chinese server starts to lose money hand over fist because of Chinese players being on TQ anyway. Oh yes, start with petitioning the people you know that have bought ISK. Regardless if they are chinese or not.
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.06.27 17:08:00 - [8] Originally by: Hellspawn01 Again, this topic is not about race nor racial issues. Its about a country that has its own server that sends players to TQ to (mostly) farm ISK for the purpose of selling for real cash. We cant play there so they shouldnt be allowed to play here either. Ppl with existing accounts should be allowed to stay unless they are getting banned for ISK selling. As for the IP routing, not all of them are into that stuff hopefully. (waiting for a dev/gm reply) OK, let me see if I can translate this: "I'm not against chinese, just against people born in china"
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.06.27 17:11:00 - [9] Edited by: Shameless Avenger on 27/06/2007 17:10:31 Originally by: voogru I'm American. That explains a lot. Is your head shaved too?
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.06.27 17:20:00 - [10] Originally by: voogru Originally by: Shameless Avenger Edited by: Shameless Avenger on 27/06/2007 17:10:31 Originally by: voogru I'm American. That explains a lot. Is your head shaved too? And your acusing me of racism? Oh, so you don't like it? Then why you do it to other people?
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.06.27 17:40:00 - [11] Originally by: voogru Edited by: voogru on 27/06/2007 17:27:52 Originally by: Shameless Avenger Oh yes, start with petitioning the people you know that have bought ISK. Regardless if they are chinese or not. I already do this. I don't care what race you are. If you buy ISK and I find out GM's get a little petition sent their way. Originally by: Shameless Avenger Oh, so you don't like it? Then why you do it to other people? The idea of restricting Chinese players to the Chinese server is simply that, an idea. And I bet that it would probably happen if the owners of the Chinese server wanted it that way in order to increase their profits. If the Chinese server ever gets in real trouble I bet you it would happen. The Chinese have laws in their country that govern your gaming, connecting to a server thats not in China to avoid those laws it would make sense for the Chinese to stop people from 'breaking' or avoiding the law. The Chinese goverment already restricts people from using google and google has their own 'special' version of google for Chinese people, why would they stop at search engines? OK, then I could assume you also know that most isk buyers are americans. It is a known fact. I propose we block american IPs. That should take care of the ISK sellers, since they would not have clients to sell the ISKies to.
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.06.28 19:40:00 - [12] Originally by: Whineroy Originally by: Caios Edited by: Caios on 28/06/2007 13:06:31 Since everyone knows the main issue is the demand for isk, we should likewise eliminate isk buying on TQ by banning American IPs and setting up a separate server where they can do whatever the hell they want. After all, that's where the vast majority of buyers hail from. Gotta love all these dimwits who insist that ISK farmers themselves are doing nothing wrong, despite there being dev- level evidence that ISK farming itself causes major problems even without anyone buying ISK... See http://myeve.eve-online.com/devblog.asp?a=blog&bid=437 Read it and stop being clueless, hypocritical or both. Thank you. I don't know what dimwits are, but just in case, your....! With that said, please get down from the pink cloud you are living, thinking that isk farmers don't sell the isk. And second, no dev or ccp employee is going to accept that isk buying is wrong because <drums sounding> GTC and Farmed Character Sales! They will be shooting themselves in the foot. And the new forum along with it.
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.06.29 12:59:00 - [13] That's the <some country> public education system, at it's finest.
Shameless Avenger	Posted - 2007.06.29 14:12:00 - [14] Originally by: Kolwrath Originally by: Bu Jinkan Isk farming macrominers are critical to prevent the eve economy from collapsing. One example is ice. Ice takes a ridiculously long time to mine. And POSes need a lot of ice to keep running. In fact, large 0.0 alliances need so much ice that they regularly buy up entire markets worth of it in Empire. If the macro ice miners disappear, so does the ice they mine. The result? Fuel prices will spike ridiculously high, to the point where 0.0 space is basically unusuable until CCP fixes the whole thing. Right ... because CCP is completely unable to rebalance the game mechanics to lower the cycle time for ice or some such should all your ebil miers vanish. Oh and forget about lowering the amount of low end matts required on BPOS. Thats hardcoded into the database ... no way they could ever change that. Holy tin foil hattery batman. If they wanted to do that, they would have done it long ago. The game is designed to force you to mine ICE if you want to control 0.0 space. But the 0.0 PvPiers don't mine because it's "carebearish". They don't even hire miners because miners are "carebears". Enter the macro...

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